Debate: A Charter for Government
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Posted 18 January 2009 - 11:38 AM
I am interested in any meaningful comments, criticisms, or suggestions you may have. No matter what may be your personal philosophy, and no matter what might be your personal beliefs, I would like to hear from you. Please submit your comments in the comments section:
http://blog.paulmckeever.ca/2009/01/18/deb...for-government/
Insults and flame-bait will be discarded: please avoid ad hominem attacks toward me or toward other commenters, but do not be afraid to express a judgment that something in the document is true/false, good/evil, virtuous/vicious.
A Charter for Government
- FIRST DRAFT -
Definitions
1. In this Charter:
Reality means: that which exists.
Fact of Reality means: something that is true about Reality.
True belief or claim means: one consistent with the Facts of Reality, as identified by a strictly logical process of thought about that for which there ultimately exists physical evidence that has been perceived by a human being.
Arbitrary belief or claim means: one for which no physical evidence has been perceived by a human being.
False belief or claim means: one that is contrary to the Facts of Reality because it is illogical, or because it is contrary to physical evidence as a determined by a strictly logical process of thought.
Government means: a number of governed individuals who, jointly or severally, have and rationally exercise the authority to make, interpret, and enforce objective laws.
Reality
2. The conclusions, decisions, actions, words, deeds, policies, proposals, laws and regulations of government always must be founded solely upon, and always must be consistent with, True beliefs and claims.
3. Government must never express or imply any False or Arbitrary belief or claim.
4. Government must never expressly or implicitly sanction, and must never cause or allow itself appear to sanction, in any way, any False or Arbitrary belief or claim.
Reason
5. Government must never attempt to discourage or prevent any individual from thinking or acting rationally and must never condemn or punish any individual for thinking or acting rationally.
6. Government must never attempt to persuade or coerce any individual to think or act irrationally, and must never praise or reward any individual for thinking or acting irrationally.
7. Government must never condemn or punish any individual for his rational thoughts, words or deeds.
8. Government must never praise or reward any individual for his irrational thoughts, words or deeds.
Self
9. Government must never attempt to persuade or coerce any individual to make other individuals’ survival, relief, or happiness a higher value or priority than his own survival, relief and happiness.
10. Government must never in any way attempt to condemn or punish any individual for making his own survival, relief and happiness his highest purpose or priority.
11. Government must never attempt to praise or reward any individual for making other individuals’ survival, relief, or happiness a higher purpose or priority than his own survival, relief and happiness.
Consent
LIFE
12. Government must use force to ensure that no individual does anything to another individual’s body without the latter individual’s consent (i.e., that no individual violates another individual’s life).
13. Government must not violate any individual’s life.
14. Government must not use force to penalize in any way an individual’s rational attempt to defend against another individual’s attempt to violate the former individual’s life.
15. Government must, and only government may, use force in a retaliatory manner to ensure justice prevails when an individual has done something to another individual’s body without the latter individual’s consent.
LIBERTY
16. Government must use force to ensure that no individual restricts or directs another individual’s actions without the latter individual’s consent (i.e., that no individual violates another individual’s liberty).
17. Government must not violate any individual’s liberty.
18. Government must not use force to penalize in any way an individual’s rational attempt to defend against another individual’s attempt to violate the former individual’s liberty.
19. Government must, and only government may, use force in a retaliatory manner to ensure justice prevails when an individual has violated another individual’s liberty.
PROPERTY
20. Government must use force to ensure that no person does with a thing that which a property right allows only another person to do with the thing, unless the former person has the latter person’s consent so to do it (i.e., that no person violates another person’s property).
21. Government must not violate any person’s property.
22. Government must not use force to penalize in any way a person’s rational attempt to defend against another person’s attempt to violate the former person’s property.
23. Government must, and only government may, use force in a retaliatory manner to ensure justice prevails when a person has violated another person’s property.
Justice
24. To ensure justice prevails, when a person has violated another person’s life, liberty or property, Government shall impose a negative consequence of no greater or lesser magnitude than that which resulted from the violation.
Law
25. All laws must be objective and objectively justifiable so that individuals know clearly, and in advance of taking an action, what the law requires or forbids persons to do and why; what constitutes a wrong, an offence, or a crime; and how force will be used against a person who commits a wron
#2
Posted 18 January 2009 - 11:57 AM
Paul McKeever, on Jan 18 2009, 11:38 AM, said:
24. To ensure justice prevails, when a person has violated another person’s life, liberty or property, Government shall impose a negative consequence of no greater or lesser magnitude than that which resulted from the violation.
On first reading, this just jumped out at me.
The phrasing here seems problematic. I gather that your intention is for the consequences to fit the crime, but it reads like a restorative approach to justice. So if a criminal were to steal a fifty cent candy bar the fine could only be fifty cents. This would ultimately not act as a deterrent because the criminal would only get caught a certain percentage of the time. Crime would "pencil out" in a way. I would recommend changing that so it doesn't get redfined a la "General Welfare."
#3
Posted 18 January 2009 - 12:23 PM
aequalsa, on Jan 18 2009, 11:57 AM, said:
The phrasing here seems problematic. I gather that your intention is for the consequences to fit the crime, but it reads like a restorative approach to justice. So if a criminal were to steal a fifty cent candy bar the fine could only be fifty cents. This would ultimately not act as a deterrent because the criminal would only get caught a certain percentage of the time. Crime would "pencil out" in a way. I would recommend changing that so it doesn't get redfined a la "General Welfare."
I generally agree with this. It would be my biggest disagreement with it.
I'm sure you as a Lawyer could give us a better explanation of this.
Think of the rivers of blood, spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot
-Carl Sagan
Never an inch of compromise for Bruce Wayne. You with no powers but your paltry human skills and your bottomless egotism. Your relentless, unforgiving hatred for that which is not utterly perfect. You'll be the death of us all. We who live in the world of men, must consider the greater good and come to terms with the way things are. The way...things...are --Superman
#4
Posted 18 January 2009 - 01:12 PM
Paul McKeever, on Jan 18 2009, 12:38 PM, said:
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13. Government must not violate any individual’s life.
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WRT the section on justice, there needs to be a bit more development of non-punitive aspects of justice I'm specifically speaking of civil matters (torts and contracts), where properly understood a judgment does not impose a penalty, but states what the objectively just state of affairs should be. The court will determine that in order to avoid a violation of plaintiff's rights, respondent must perform in such-and-such fashion.
I also happen to agree with aequalsa about the problem of restorative-only views of consequences, though I understand that this is not a given among Objectivists. Crime should not be profitable, and it could easily be if the most you are subject to is the requirement to return the stolen property. If you get arrested and convicted 50% of the time, it's still a profitable enterprise. This is where some elaboration of "justice" could help.
Anyhow, it's an admirable work.
#5
Posted 18 January 2009 - 03:52 PM
aequalsa, on Jan 18 2009, 12:57 PM, said:
The phrasing here seems problematic. I gather that your intention is for the consequences to fit the crime, but it reads like a restorative approach to justice. So if a criminal were to steal a fifty cent candy bar the fine could only be fifty cents. This would ultimately not act as a deterrent because the criminal would only get caught a certain percentage of the time. Crime would "pencil out" in a way. I would recommend changing that so it doesn't get redfined a la "General Welfare."
Ah yes. Well, I had given that some thought. It's a bit tricky, because - at least in Canada, but probably in all common law jurisdictions - theft is both a civil and a criminal wrong. At common law, it's referred to as a "conversion", and the remedy is chiefly compensatory (i.e., pay the 50 cents for the candy bar), though, in exceptional cases, the wrong-doer may be required to pay the victim damages for mental distress or to pay him punitive/exemplary damages (i.e., money paid to punish the wrongdoer and make an example out of him...this usually requires more than just theft, and will normally require something such as malice).
Yet the very same act is also criminal and the punishment there may well be different. For example: the government could impose a fine, or imprisonment. I do not believe that that implies that the eye-for-an-eye principle is violated. Rather, the criminal law is taking into account the cost to everyone in society, rather than just to the chocolate bar vendor in question (which is why, as a matter of criminal law, the chocolate bar vender is not a party, but simply a witness...the head of state is a party, and it is suing the alleged criminal under criminal laws).
As you might imagine, given the above, it would be easy to get very bogged-down in defining justice within this Charter. I went the 'broad strokes' route, but there may be a better wording that remedies your concern. Having spent the last 3 or 4 hours shoveling snow, that wording eludes me at the moment.
#6
Posted 18 January 2009 - 04:28 PM
Thanks for giving this so much thought.
Re: the Definition given for "Government", David writes:
DavidOdden, on Jan 18 2009, 02:12 PM, said:
Hmmm. That was not my intent. Perhaps the phrase "governed individuals" confuses? I used the adjective "governed" to make it clear that no individual is "above the law", as it were.
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That's a very good point. I don' t have a quick solution just yet, but I will certainly give it some thought.
I will also have to think back to why I avoided using the "initiation" wording. It is probably due to the fact that my experience with it is that, too often, the underlying principles are ignored in its interpretation, such that the "initiation" wording leads some people to think all that matters is "he started it"...which is insufficient to accommodate such things as pre-emptive strikes where there is evidence that an attack will otherwise occur.
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Another excellent point. Thank-you. I most certainly will have to address threats.
Re: Clause 14, David writes:
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I agree with you: I do not think it right that you cannot defend another person. Perhaps "...another individual’s attempt to violate the former individual’s life, or the life of any third individual"?
Re: Clause 15, David writes:
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Re: Clause 16, David writes:
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David: I must thank you some more. Your comment - with which I agree - reminded me of that nightmare of a song "Sign, sign, everywhere a sign".
I'll have another look at the justice section, in light of your comments concerning it. Thanks.
This post has been edited by Paul McKeever: 18 January 2009 - 04:29 PM

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