[monart]

In Stephen Speicher's latest post, observe that he continues to show rancor and use ridicule to divert attention away from the fact that he hasn't demonstrated any reasoning for his charge that I'm "immorally violating Rand's intellectual property rights". Nor has he supported his charge that I'm a "liar" and a "fraud".

stephen_speicher, on Aug 8 2004, 11:05 PM, said:

My "astronomical scene" is an image of something real, while your "Starship Aurora" is a libertarian fantasy all in your mind. You even chose the constitution from "Minerva," ...<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Stephen Speicher should be told that independent minds can read for themselves and don't need Speicher's telling of the alleged connection between "Starship Aurora" and the "Minerva Constitution". It is *not* the constitution of Starship Aurora, which is only a philosophy and art organization. SA was never involved in the Minerva project or any political project. A copy of that constitution is posted on the website for historical reasons, and as an example of how a modern, limited government constitution may or may not be written.

What is the point of Stephen Speicher's mis-representation about this? The pattern of his posts indicate that it's another distraction and a continuing attempt to defame my character, presuming falsely to know who I really am.

stephen_speicher, on Aug 8 2004, 11:05 PM, said:

Monart, you are nutball, plain and simple. Go back to your "neo-objectivist" brood and write your little ethereal poems to each other.
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In all other moderated forums, such repeated insults substituting for reasons, like those being posted by Stephen Speicher, would have been clear grounds for deletion and unsubscription long before this. But observe that this forum is different, it seems some are exempt from the posting policy.

Meanwhile, Stephen Speicher should know that his posts are making his reputation even worse.

-Monart

[eyeless]

scottkursk, on Aug 5 2004, 02:25 AM, said:

I think the band he went after was a Washington DC band called The Fountainhead that put out an album called "The Voice of Reason." I've got both the cassette and LP. You are right that the name is a pretty deliberate moral violation unlike the use of Anthem by Rush.
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There is a half-famous pop band from Ireland that is called The Fountainhead and who has released an album called 'The Voice of Reason' (I think it was called so) (maybe it was released also in Washington ...?). They were on the same label as the more known China Crises and maybe U2 at one point (I first heard about them through and Objectivist who liked them (I don't)).

I guess it is difficult to protect oneself against young people taking names in this fashion without much thought. In a sense it is a good sign so many unthinking people just cannot come up with anything else -- a sign of the impact Ayn Rand is having around the world.

Jerry

[stephen_speicher]

monart, on Aug 9 2004, 08:13 AM, said:

stephen_speicher @ Aug 8 2004, on 11:05 PM, said:

Monart, you are nutball, plain and simple. Go back to your "neo-objectivist" brood and write your little ethereal poems to each other.

In all other moderated forums, such repeated insults substituting for reasons, like those being posted by Stephen Speicher, would have been clear grounds for deletion and unsubscription long before this.

Exactly! On a forum where the content is screened before it gets posted, you and the pathetic garbage that you spew would never be seen. But here you get to post your "neo-objectivist" crap and demonstrate your disdain for the philosophy of Objectivism and its creator. To "reason" with the likes of you would be obscene. The only choice is to ignore a cuckoo bird like you, or ridicule you. Up to now it has been entertaining doing the latter.

[AshRyan]

stephen_speicher, on Aug 9 2004, 11:27 AM, said:

...To "reason" with the likes of you would be obscene. The only choice is to ignore a cuckoo bird like you, or ridicule you. Up to now it has been entertaining doing the latter.
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That's the only reason I've let this thread continue, is because your posts are entertaining, Stephen.

[stephen_speicher]

AshRyan, on Aug 9 2004, 10:36 AM, said:

stephen_speicher @ Aug 9 2004, on 11:27 AM, said:

...To "reason" with the likes of you would be obscene. The only choice is to ignore a cuckoo bird like you, or ridicule you. Up to now it has been entertaining doing the latter.

That's the only reason I've let this thread continue, is because your posts are entertaining, Stephen.
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Unfortunately, I never learn my lesson with characters like these. It is just like the old Neo-techers, where even ridiculing them lends more credence to them then they deserve. Taking Objectivism to the galactic business centers of the universe ... oy vey!

[stephen_speicher]

eyeless, on Aug 9 2004, 08:50 AM, said:

I guess it is difficult to protect oneself against young people taking names in this fashion without much thought. In a sense it is a good sign so many unthinking people just cannot come up with anything else -- a sign of the impact Ayn Rand is having around the world.

I think you are quite right about that, i.e., the impact of Ayn Rand and Objectivism. Maybe soon we will have the action figures in the local Toys R Us.

[DPW]

stephen_speicher, on Aug 9 2004, 12:02 PM, said:

I think you are quite right about that, i.e., the impact of Ayn Rand and Objectivism. Maybe soon we will have the action figures in the local Toys R Us. 
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I've always envisioned an Ayn Rand video game. Level one will have her escaping from Russia, and if you make her harm an innocent person rather than a commie, the screen will go black: "I'm sorrry. You've initiated force. Please try again."

[AndrewSternberg]

DPW, on Aug 9 2004, 12:07 PM, said:

"I'm sorrry.  You've initiated force.  Please try again."

HAHAHA.

[monart]

A review of the album, "Concerto of Deliverance", is just published at Atlasphere. See announcement below. Other earlier reviews are at

http://www.starshipa...comment_01.html
http://www.starshipa...comment_02.html
http://www.starshipa...comment_03.html

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August 12, 2004

A new feature column has just been published at the Atlasphere:

John Mills-Cockell’s Concerto of Deliverance (Review)
by Douglas Wagoner

Far from a traditional concerto, John Mills-Cockell's Concerto of Deliverance (commissioned by Monart Pon) is perhaps best viewed as an idiosyncratic concept album inspired by Rand's work.

Go here to read the full article:

http://www.theatlasp...deliverance.php

___________________________________________________
The Atlasphere http://www.TheAtlasphere.com
Connecting Admirers of The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged

[monart]

[quote name='stephen_speicher' date='Aug 9 2004, 11:27 AM']
In all other moderated forums, such repeated insults substituting for reasons, like those being posted by Stephen Speicher, would have been clear grounds for deletion and unsubscription long before this.[/quote]
Exactly! On a forum where the content is screened before it gets posted, you and the pathetic garbage that you spew would never be seen. But here you get to post your "neo-objectivist" crap and demonstrate your disdain for the philosophy of Objectivism and its creator. To "reason" with the likes of you would be obscene. The only choice is to ignore a cuckoo bird like you, or ridicule you. Up to now it has been entertaining doing the latter.
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Where, in this thread, did Stepen Speicher ever "reason"?. All his posts were attempts at *diversion* from reasoning -- using ineffective and unfunny insults, slurrs, intimidation, etc., that do no credit to his already disrespectable reputation. Not once yet has he answered the rebuttals in my post "The 'Immorality' of a Concerto of Deliverance", or in my other post. His just asserting that he doesn't care to, isn't a reasonable answer. He's better off being silent.

-Monart

[ZiggyKD]

Forum Rules:

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Links: No advertisements or spam of any kind will be tolerated, including any posts made solely to advertise your website.

You have posted this same exact message ("A review of the album, "Concerto of Deliverance", is just published at Atlasphere...") in three different forums today alone (1, 2, 3) not to mention that half of your posts (9 out of 17, by my count) are loaded with your attached advertisements or links to your "concerto" project . Spamming is explicitly prohibited on this message board.

As an aside, I wish I would have known about that myself before I made my introduction thread months ago (which was basically an ad for my club's website).

This post has been edited by ZiggyKD: 12 August 2004 - 06:23 PM

[scottkursk]

Or the Nathaniel Branden video game. Branden just lift various games from other developers and sticks his name on duct tape which is then applied to the stolen and hijacked boxes.

DPW, on Aug 9 2004, 12:07 PM, said:

I've always envisioned an Ayn Rand video game.  Level one will have her escaping from Russia, and if you make her harm an innocent person rather than a commie, the screen will go black:  "I'm sorrry.  You've initiated force.  Please try again."
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[GreedyCapitalist]

A reminder of the forum rules: “No advertisements or spam of any kind will be tolerated, including any posts made solely to advertise your website.”

That would be sufficient reason to delete the posts, but I think the three pages of commentary are sufficient to enlighten any potential buyer about the content. For that reason, I don’t think that keeping the links up constitutes allowing Monart to promote his album. Any further promotion of the “Concerto” will not be tolerated, however. In fact, I’m just going to close this thread, since far too much time and bandwidth has been wasted on it already.